Ep 21 Rev Andy McGee

14. November 2016 Uncategorized 4

Rev Andy McGee is the Lead pastor of Trinity Family Midtown and the Executive Director of Love Wins.:LGBT. This episode is sponsored by Mission New York. Mission New York exists to support church planters for the Church of the Nazarene in Manhattan – you should totally go join them! Check out the Mission New York fb page for more information. And if you haven’t already, check out the conference for young pastors TNL is co-hosting over at youngclergycon.com. Early Bird tickets are on sale now!


4 thoughts on “Ep 21 Rev Andy McGee”

  • 1
    Ron Hunter Jr. on November 16, 2016 Reply

    Rather vague conversation. Without question God loves homosexuals but does this pastor hold that God made them LGBTQI? What does difference look like for Darkness? While Jesus did not condemn the woman caught in adultery, neither did he condone the sinning. Ministry to the broken is necessary yet while we dont stand as judge, John 3:18 tells that a judgement is for all excepting the saving of Jesus which transfers us to life. What is this life realized via this ministry. Are there identifying LGBT persons who will one day seek ordination with CotN? Would this be extend this to the porn addicted or philandering?
    This is a necessary conversation yet we need to discuss such things as what the sin is that God is sanctifying the person from and what the holiness looks like to these. Scripture broadly refers “as you once were” is that where we are directing our faith or what?
    Love for people cannot dismiss what is destroying them.

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    Andy McGee on November 16, 2016 Reply

    Ron,

    Here are answers to your questions above. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify things for you.

    Does this pastor hold that God made them LGBTQI?

    While scientific experiments conducted to determine the answer to questions surrounding an LGBTQ orientation have proven inconclusive, there has been no lack of theories put forth, appealing to genetic, hormonal, or physical properties. Another theory is that disordered family relationships can leave people confused about their sexual identity. To date, there is no evidence upon which to draw any of these conclusions.

    What does difference look like for Darkness?

    I would need further clarification to properly answer this question as I am not sure what you mean.

    What is this life realized via this ministry?

    LGBTQ identified individuals living in faithfulness to the Word of God expressed in the person of Jesus Christ. (i.e. Christlike Disciple)

    Are there identifying LGBT persons who will one day seek ordination with CotN?

    According to the Manual and the Board of General Superintendents, someone who is LGBT oriented would be able to serve but not if they are engaging in same-sex, sexual behavior.

    Would this be extend this to the porn addicted or philandering?

    Would grace and love be extended? Yes. I would need further clarification to properly answer this question as I am not sure what you mean.

    What is the sin that God is sanctifying the person from and what does holiness look like to these?

    We embrace the optimism of grace to transform lives and encourage LGBTQ individuals to remain available to God’s abundant grace. All, of all orientations, are called to live a life of abstinence outside of a marriage relationship as defined in the Manual and the Pastoral Perspectives document released by the Board of General Superintendents.. This requires the Church of the Nazarene to not only open our doors, but our individual lives as well, to those called to such a life.

    Scripture broadly refers “as you once were” is that where we are directing our faith or what?

    See the answer to question above.

    For any further questions please contact me directly at andy@trinityfamilyonline.com

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    Matt Price on November 25, 2016 Reply

    Love to hear your story even as often as I’ve heard it. It never gets old or wears out. That’s the grace of God for you.

    I cannot tell you how fully blessed I was to hear Andy and Brit conversing on this podcast. The circle of God’s family widens the longer we live this Nazarene life, and it just grows deeper as we go.

    Keep up the beautiful work God is doing through you, Andy.
    And, Brit, keep letting these stories be told.

    • 4
      Andy McGee on December 13, 2016 Reply

      We love you Matt! 🙂

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